1977 days ago

End of Life Choice Bill

Trevor from Paraparaumu Beach

Murray Collingwood closed off a discussion on the above topic just as I was about to post this, so I will see if I can post it as a new topic.
Generally the discussion highlighted the opposition of most clergy and some doctors to this bill.
Peace, All.

When I hear that “the Clergy” oppose a new proposal to ease or improve the human condition, I always think to the time of Galileo, when he was imprisoned at the behest of the Church for arguing that the earth revolved around the sun, rather than the reverse. Since then (and most probably before then) the Church has opposed most progressive proposals, many of which today we would take for granted.
The Catholic Church, in particular, but by no means uniquely, violently opposed alternative beliefs (think about the Reformation) etc, supported slavery, and more recently has opposed birth control, gay rights, abortion, etc. And all the way, the lay followers of the church supported its approach. They hunted down “witches”, they burnt indigenous South Americans at the stake “to save their souls”. The Cardinals devised and supervised hideous tortures for those who dared to doubt them. Throughout the centuries the Church has fought a continuous rear guard action against the advances of science and recognition of individual rights. So when the Clergy oppose something, it immediately engenders a healthy degree of skepticism with me.
What sort of a person desires another to suffer greatly and needlessly to support their own bigoted beliefs? Are they saying, “I don’t care who you are or what you believe – you need to suffer as long as possible, lose your dignity and sense of self, because of my God and my beliefs.” Someone who wants another person to suffer needlessly is called a sadist, just like the torturers in the Vatican of old.

As for the doctors – I can understand that a good many of them are comfortable with the status quo. Certainly some of them are tightly bound within the web of the Church, others may be uncomfortable about the judgement of some patients and peers. If they have concerns about specific situations, they should collaborate to mitigate those concerns. There are already checks and balances; there could be more, whether formal or informal. Some doctors (and others) are now arguing that because of more sophisticated palliative care, no-one would suffer unbearably. Not true – but what was their argument before such allegedly sophisticated palliative care was available? What would they have said then? I think we know.

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2 days ago

Landscape Builders

Joseph from Jmurphybuilding

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15 hours ago

Poll: If we want to reduce speeding, what do you think actually changes driver behaviour? 🛻🚨🚓

The Team from Neighbourly.co.nz

In the Post's article on speeding penalties, the question is asked whether speeding fines are truly about road safety, or are they just a way to boost revenue for the Crown?

What do you think? Should speeding motorists receive speeding fines or demerit points?

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If we want to reduce speeding, what do you think actually changes driver behaviour? 🛻🚨🚓
  • 31.7% The sting of a fine (Money talks!)
    31.7% Complete
  • 68.3% The threat of demerit points (Nobody wants to lose their license!)
    68.3% Complete
189 votes
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1 day ago

THE WAIKANAE BEACH MONTHLY COMMUNITY MARKET IS ON THIS SUNDAY

Gary from Waikanae

WHERE:- Waikanae Beach Community Hall,
22 Rauparaha Street, Waikanae Beach,

WHEN:- Sunday 8 March 10am-1pm

Enjoy a Sunday outing with your family and friends by visiting this great friendly community market where you will discover handmade treasures and local creativity by highly talented stallholders where every piece tells a story.


FOR THE KIDS:-
Bring the kids along so they can meet jane with her quality handmade crochet toys, along with Helen and her huge range of awesome handmade children's dress ups and dolls clothes etc and Viv Walker a local author of Children's Books and an accomplished creator of Pet Portraits.

NEW STALLHOLDERS:-
BioGro Certified organic apples from Applejack Orchard in Te Horo. Their apples are tree ripened, and picked and bagged the day before they sell them! They are audited annually by BioGro New Zealand, and their certificate will be on display.


DISCOVER UNIQUE AND QUALITY ITEMS:-
You will find a huge variety of high-quality, reasonably priced gift ideas along with locally produced honey beeswax, Oils & Sauces, Fresh Flowers and Organic Apples.


MEET UP WITH YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY:-
Meet up with a friend or 2 and enjoy a Sunday outing at this great Community event.

Don't miss it... support local!