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Kerry from Glenbervie
I’m starting a new thread here because an issue arose that has not been explored in relation to David Arlidge’s recent discussion: Is marriage dead as a social institution? Or is there an elephant in the room?
The reality that, as David pointed out, this institution has held such a great … View moreI’m starting a new thread here because an issue arose that has not been explored in relation to David Arlidge’s recent discussion: Is marriage dead as a social institution? Or is there an elephant in the room?
The reality that, as David pointed out, this institution has held such a great influence on human culture over such a vast period of history and over such diverse cultures cannot reasonably be denied. What also cannot reasonably be denied is the reality that at least in our culture, and perhaps that of wider Western civilization this institution is rapidly losing favour as a social more.
David’s view, (as is mine, though for different reasons) is that this was not a good thing.
And I think it might be fair to say that, just as the first black President of the United States was ushered in as a defining moment of racial equality in American politics, so too in New Zealand we have reached a pivotal moment in our own political history.
While we may be basking in the sunshine of sexual equality having our third female Prime Minister, we no doubt have moved firmly still further into liberal ideology having our first Prime Minister who is both unmarried and expecting her first child. I think that David’s thread amply demonstrated that people observed this as a good thing. That this was a sign of a moral “coming of age” when a political leader could accomplish the pinnacle of political aspirations, and remain unmarried, and all without censure or misgivings by any group with political clout. Those who responded to the thread seem to reflect the views of the wider population at least according to media portrayal.
What hasn’t changed is that we still universally describe these changes in terms of being “good” or “better” or “worse” or “bad”. In other words we still recognize these changes as questions of moral significance.
The question of how we arrive at whether something is good or bad is the question I would like to explore in this thread. I hope this strikes you as an important question. If the question of marriage assumes such importance, then surely a question of our basis for all moral questions must assume value an order of magnitude greater again? If it is important to give a hungry man a fish, who tomorrow will be hungry again, is it not so much more important to teach him how to fish! I think sometimes our reaction to this is: “Well to marry or not to marry is immediately available to my experience, the question of our basis for morality is so esoteric, so beyond what I’m used to thinking about, I don’t think I can participate, I’m not qualified nor interested.” Just remember that the law chooses a jury of ordinary people who have a sense of civic duty to decide the fate of alleged murderers who stand to lose their freedom for a very long time. Well I hope this topic will be of interest, and not at all out of reach.
To that end, I want to comment on some things which were missed in the previous discussion, so first some housekeeping:
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Ian Crayton-Brown from Northland Road Safety
The NZ Transport Agency thanks motorists in the Far North for their patience and understanding as wet weather continues to disrupt the resurfacing of State Highway 1 through the Mangamuka Gorge.
Contractors need one more day of fine weather to finish the job, says the NZ Transport Agency’s … View moreThe NZ Transport Agency thanks motorists in the Far North for their patience and understanding as wet weather continues to disrupt the resurfacing of State Highway 1 through the Mangamuka Gorge.
Contractors need one more day of fine weather to finish the job, says the NZ Transport Agency’s System Manager Steve Mutton.
The road will be closed this Sunday, 11 March to make up for the day lost last weekend. The closure will follow the same timetable as previous weekends, starting at 8:30am on Sunday. It will reopen 4pm – 5pm and close again until 8pm if necessary.
The resurfacing requires dry weather, so any rain will force a postponement to Monday or Tuesday.
Rahul from Ruakaka
Looking for accommodation in ruakaka or nearby asap please let me know if anyone has accommodation.
Rahul
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Duncan from Central Whangarei
Hi all,
I am looking for a room to rent, ideally near Central Whangarei, but would consider further afield. A room in an established flat would be ok, OR;
- granny flat, bedsit, sleepout
- insulated garage / cabin
Access to broadband is important.
I'm clean-living, non-drinking, and … View moreHi all,
I am looking for a room to rent, ideally near Central Whangarei, but would consider further afield. A room in an established flat would be ok, OR;
- granny flat, bedsit, sleepout
- insulated garage / cabin
Access to broadband is important.
I'm clean-living, non-drinking, and house-trained, in my early 50s. I pay my rent on time, and can pay a bond if required. I can provide three references from previous landlords.
Thanks for reading.
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The Team from Resene ColorShop Whangarei
Hey neighbours, listen up! Summer holidays are over and it's time to focus back on your entertaining space at home. Accomplish those decorating and DIY projects before March Madness has you muddled!
Pop into your local Resene ColorShop for 25% off Resene premium paints, wood stains, … View moreHey neighbours, listen up! Summer holidays are over and it's time to focus back on your entertaining space at home. Accomplish those decorating and DIY projects before March Madness has you muddled!
Pop into your local Resene ColorShop for 25% off Resene premium paints, wood stains, primers and sealers, wallpaper, decorating accessories and cleaning products. Discount is off the normal retail price at Resene owned ColorShops and participating resellers.
New Zealand Red Cross from Central Whangarei
Kia Ora neighbours,
Red Cross is looking for volunteers to help out as collectors for our Street appeal 16 and 17th March 2018. If you can assist for a couple of hours on either of these days we would love to hear from you. Please call us: 09 438 3120 or email: Whangarei@redcross.org.nz.
Come … View moreKia Ora neighbours,
Red Cross is looking for volunteers to help out as collectors for our Street appeal 16 and 17th March 2018. If you can assist for a couple of hours on either of these days we would love to hear from you. Please call us: 09 438 3120 or email: Whangarei@redcross.org.nz.
Come and do good with Red Cross.
Kind Regards,
Nancy
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